Hard Truth Podcast: Understanding Glucose Effects with Chad Leister


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Join us for an enlightening episode of The Hard Truth Podcast, where we delve into the effects of glucose on the body with our special guest, Chad, an expert in metabolic health. In this discussion, we explore how glucose impacts your energy levels, mood, and overall well-being, and share effective strategies for managing blood sugar through diet and lifestyle modifications. Whether you’re looking to enhance your dietary habits or better understand your body’s response to sugar, this episode is packed with essential insights to help you optimize your health. Tune in to discover how you can take control of your glucose levels and improve your life.

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Welcome to The Hard Truth Podcast.

This is Jeremy Fouts, and we have a special guest with us today, Chad Leister.

Chad has been a friend of mine, and given me so much counsel and wisdom when it comes to nutrition, workout performance, and you can obviously see if you’re on YouTube what he’s built like, and he is an example of good health and having things figured out in the nutrition world.

And today we’re gonna be talking about glucose.

A lot of people, we was talking earlier, Chad, and they understand macros, their protein, their carbs, their fats, but they don’t understand glucose.

And today we’re gonna be talking about glucose.

Thank you for being on, share with us, give us a little bit of background of your education, what you do for a living, and a little bit about yourself before we get started.

Yeah, so I went to school at North Dakota State University for human performance and fitness and food nutrition back in, graduated in 2001.

So my whole life has been about helping people, trying to get on the right track.

I’ve competed in 10 different NPC bodybuilding shows.

My last show was in 2016, I did Junior Nationals in Chicago.

So just experience of doing that.

And then along with coaching many people for bodybuilding shows, I think one of my biggest shows, I had eight people in Fargo, North Dakota, where most of my competitors either got first or second.

So just training people a little bit smarter way than harder.

You know, there’s always a concept of smarter, not harder.

And that’s kind of how I train people.

And like you said before, we talked about glucose.

And I think that’s one of the key things for people is, what is glucose?

How does it work in your body?

How can it help you lose body fat and also make you feel good and bad?


You know, that’s something that I’ve learned a lot in the last three years.

You know, I tell everyone, I’ve always worked out just enough to look good on stage.

But I’ve really started educating myself the last three years.

And I mean, my sugar pretty much is not a lot in my diet.

And only the sugars that I do take is like a pure sugar cane or something at different times.

So give us some background on glucose and the struggles that people have with glucose, how they mismanage glucose, how they find theirself not being able to lose weight.

Just give us a…

And what I love about today, guys, is Chad is not only very knowledgeable, but he’s the best that I’ve ever talked to at just making everything simple.

So today is definitely gonna be episode that you wanna keep listening to and share with your friends and family.

So act like you’re talking to me and I don’t know nothing about glucose, but I say, Chad, I’m looking to get not only fit, but also healthy at the same time, because that’s something a lot of people don’t understand.

Yeah, I think what the big mis-concept is that people always say you have great genetics, because your genetics are great, and it really is your glucose sensitivity.

So the younger you are, when your kids are teenagers, their glucose is between 70 and 80.

As soon as they eat food, they’re burning that off.

They’re like machines.

And the older you get, your glucose comes a bit less sensitive.

That glucose starts slowly rising.

So if you’re looking at about 70 to 90 milligrams per deciliter, that’s where a good glucose is for any age.

I mean, that’s where you’re burning fat.

Your glucose is spawning up pretty good.

Even if you’re eating a ton of carbs, that number might jump to 140 in the next two hours.

Now the next level gets to be like pre-diabetic, where you’re at between like 100 and 110.

So people aren’t quite diabetic, but you’re just on the border.

And that that means too is that people who are lower in eating carbs are just getting up to your level fasted.

And at 100 to 110, you’re pretty much not burning fat at all throughout the day.

And then your diabetics are like 126 plus, which is not that far off with that pre-diabetic number, but it just means that your patients and the people out there are just not burning fat.

So you wake up in the morning, you’re fasting, and as soon as you have any food in their body, your body spikes its insulin level, and that doesn’t drop back down to that fasted level again for another two, three hours.

And by the time you’re eating your food again, it’s spiking up.

So literally all day, you’re just storing fat.

You’re storing all your calories.

And people might think that they’re eating good, but they’re just not really regulating how much food they’re eating and what they’re actually eating.

You know, we was talking about this a few minutes ago.

When anybody comes to me and asks me about their nutrition, I always ask them, how are you eating?

And usually always I said, not that bad.

And I say, do you track this?

Are you tracking this on a daily?

So most of them say no.

So that’s something that you would highly recommend.

Yeah, I used to try to get people to do two to three days during the week and then also do your weekends because you know your food is going to be different on the weekends because you’re brown kids, family.

The weekends are just a bit more crazy, but definitely keep a food journey because you won’t really realize how much food you’re taking and what kind of foods you’re taking in.

And then we start looking at the back of everything you eat.

You’ll just start looking at how much sugar you’re taking.

And a lot of these sugars too now, like 45% of all adults have fatty liver disease.

And that’s not just from the alcohol people are drinking, it’s actually from the sugars and the sugar alcohols we’re taking in.

Okay, so you’re saying the fatty liver that a lot of people have is over consumption of sugar.

It is, yeah.

They’re showing a direct correlation now.

It’s not just alcohol.

Very few people are drinking alcohol, and it’s usually even younger kids now getting fatty acid disease.

So it’s just increasing because all the sugars we’re taking, our livers and kidneys are trying to break down this sugar, and it just can’t do it, so it starts to become cancers in our systems.

Okay, and here’s something too that I’ve learned from you is a lot of people, they think sugar is like candy and all these different things.

What are some other sugar sources that maybe we are over consuming that a lot of people have no idea that has that amount of sugar in it?

Yeah, I mean, breads, pastas, everything.

We pretty much add sugars to everything to make them taste better.

So everything, I eat yogurts these days.

I mean, even like most of your yogurts are in habit.

So pretty much, if you look at the back of everything, you’re gonna see it has tons of sugar added.

I mean, your juices people are taking in, your kids are, you’re feeding your kids juice in the morning for breakfast that’s spiking their insulin levels, which again, not only is bad for their system, but it’s also causing some of these ADHDs.

So kids just have a hard time focusing when their sugar levels are too high and you get this brain fog.

So just everything you can look at, if you look at the back of everything, pretty much anything and everything has probably sugar in it.

I know when you helped me with the diet, you recommended that I start off with just mainly proteins in the morning and not any carbs throughout the day, you know, spreading my carbs throughout the day, but you didn’t let me take any carbs in first thing in the morning.

Why is that necessary?

Again, because when you’re fasting in the morning, you wake up after a long night of eight hours of sleep, your body is really, your fatty acid, metabolism is low, your glucose is low.

And as soon as you take carbohydrates in the morning, you’re gonna break that fast.

And what we’ve tried to do is keep that fast going for at least a few more hours, kind of get your body.

Most people don’t need carbohydrates in the morning to work.

And a lot of people who do cardiogenic diets and keto diets usually start working much better and feel better.

It’s just trying to keep those carbs low so you’re not getting that lethargic feeling.

I need like two, three cups of coffee to keep going.

So give me the best benefits, or let’s walk me through a day of what my day would look like.

And then let’s get into also, what does protein do good for you, for your glucose levels?

I mean, just walk me through a day of my macros, what I would need to take.

I know it depends on if I’m trying to put on muscle or whatever the situation, but give me a few examples maybe.

I know you said your wife, Liz, you worked with her of cleaning up her diet that made a big difference all through our health.

Give me a couple of examples of different people, what their macros look like and why the glucose is going to make a difference.

Yeah, so there’s different macros, but I like to keep my fats fairly low.

For your body weight, like 0.3 to 0.4 grams per pound.

So protein, I like to keep up between 1.2 and 1.5.

And carbohydrates is the one thing that kind of vary.

It could be as low as 0.5 up to 2 to 3 grams, depending on if you want to add weight.

But those are kind of macros that I like to keep at.

But I like to keep the fats fairly low.

And most of those fats coming from natural fats, like eggs, meat, butter.

Avocados, stuff like that, where if you’re not adding super fats, like I do a little bit of peanut butter, but we’re not adding like coconut oil, obviously staying away from seed oil, stuff like that.

So just trying to keep the inflammation down as well.

I know seed oils has been a big thing in the news lately in the last couple of years.

What is the negative sides of seed oils?

Well, seed oils are just hard for the body to break down.

I mean, they’re basically were manufactured or a byproduct of like casserole oil.

So things like that where your body’s just not breaking down, they cause huge inflammation in your system.

Your kidneys and liver have a hard time breaking it down.

So again, you’re starting to see a lot of these cancers building up because we’re basically putting toxics in our system.

They’re not natural to our bodies.

Yeah, and I’ve also read a lot that it also in teenagers and boys, especially it decreases their testosterone levels as well.

Yeah, we’re starting to see people like my father who was 70 years old, like their testosterone levels.

Now, the 23rd year old is the age of like a 70 year old.

They’re just dropping our time because a lot of the foods we’re eating and things we’re putting into our bodies.

Yeah, and I saw a chart recently that gave an example of how long sugar stays in your system, how long alcohol stays in your system, but seed oils stayed longer in your system than anything else.

Yeah, it’s just hard for the body to break down.

There’s just no way of getting rid of it.

It’s just not a natural chemical that goes into our body where our body knows exactly what to do with it.

So it goes through different systems to break it down.

Okay, so I know one of your first classes you took in college was Metabolism 101.

Give us some of the things that really helped you in this nutrition world and transforming your own body.

And how did that class and that beginning part of that education really start teaching you what you need to do?

Yeah, so Metabolism 101, my freshman year in college, I was 150 pounds.

I was an Allstate track house country runner.

So I was a big kid, but I was a skinny kid, but I was also trying to lift weights and put on weights.

And my problem was I couldn’t figure out how to do it.

Thought I was eating enough food.

So I was reading about how fatty acid metabolism works.

Again, again, that fasting line.

So as a college kid being cheap and inexpensive, I brought two Mountain Dews, 20 ounce bottles, and two Butterfingers with me to eat between my meals.

And what that was doing was giving me enough sugar, not the quality sugar I should have been getting, but as a cheap college kid and a smart kid, I realized I was spiking my metabolism, keeping my sugar levels, so I started putting on a ton of weight.

Most of it being just because my age was good weight, the fact that I was lifting weights and getting enough protein in.

But again, at any age, I wouldn’t recommend that, but it was a good way of just, how do you get your levels up?

You gotta eat enough food, sometimes the right foods.

I wasn’t doing the correct way, but it was a good class for me to learn how the body works.

And the same reason like that, how do you pull that weight back off?

You get rid of those same things you’re trying to add in.

So it’s kind of like to put on this weight, we need to get our insulin levels up, we need to decrease our sensitivity.

So I got them in 70s to 80 milligrams per deciliter for my metabolism.

I’m really not burning, I’m keeping my muscle tissue, but I’m really not adding weight.

I’m kind of in a cloric deficit.

To get me to put, start putting on weight, I got to get my glucose levels to 90, 100, and then you’ll start seeing me put on 5, 10 pounds pretty quick.

I’ll start adding weight, but I can physically do that with myself.

But then to get that number back to 70, 80, it’s going to take me a month or two of clean eating.

So it doesn’t just drop back down.

It’s that people want to lose weight quick.

This is a long process of getting it back down.


Long process.

That’s something that I’m working with the guy right now.

And I told him, I said, look, he’s always just did cardio or done fasting or only starve himself basically.

And he’s like, nothing’s changing in my life.

I mean, he just still overweight, that type of thing.

And I told him the other day, I’m like, look, this is not something that’s gonna change your life in three months.

This is gonna be a lifestyle change.

But once you get through that process and you live this lifestyle, healthy lifestyle, you’re not gonna always go up and down and always be struggling with that.

I love that you said process because that’s really and truly what it’s about.

And I know we’ve also talked about the ways that your body looks, it definitely sets you up for good opportunities.

I mean, explain to us the way you see the way people look at us as far as being fit.

Yeah, I just see it different at the gym.

People come up to me and ask me questions because I’ve obviously, you’ve seen trainers at the gym who know a lot what they’re doing.

At the same time, they can’t physically do it to themselves.

And it’s a hard process because, like I’ve seen on your podcast before, you talk about motivation right now.

People come like, I got a vacation in two, three months, I’m motivated to do this.

And they’ll do it to a point, but the problem is when you’re not seeing results in two, three months, because sometimes that’s the kickpoint.

It takes you that long to start seeing things, because your glucose is high.

It might take you two, three months, get that glucose down, or you just start seeing results in a bad time.

Your motivation is gone.

What it really takes is dedication.

It takes that day-to-day things, like my son gives me crap all the time, because he’s like, Dad, you eat the same foods over and over again, but it’s how I feel good.

It’s how I know I’m looking good.

But I’m also taking care of myself, because I take pride in just feeling good and looking good.

You know, the older you get, the tougher it is, and trying to keep up with the 20-year-olds who’ve got the high metabolism and all those other things going for them.

So it’s just dedication and consistency over time.

Yeah, I know you and I have talked about that a lot.

People, they rely on motivation.

What I tell them is if you’re relying on motivation, it’s going to let you down.

I mean, motivation is an emotional feeling.

You know, I don’t feel like going to the gym today.

I don’t feel like eating good today.

So if I called you up and I said, Chad, I’m just not motivated today.

I know you just said discipline.

I mean, what advice would you give me on trying to rely on motivation versus the daily grind?

Well, I used to be on group chats where people would send these motivational videos all time, and I would just kind of go, it’s like going to the gym and looking at a treadmill.

Like you’re expecting your motivation to be, that treadmill is going to get me where I’m at.

It’s physically getting on that.

And actually like, you know, temperamental motivation is you want to look like it’s something in a short period of time.

Dedication is something that takes much longer.

And the more dedicated you are, the easier it is.

And once you get to a certain goal, it’s so much easier to maintain, but getting to that goal is so tough.

And that’s the problem is people lose motivation so fast, whether it’s money, whether it’s for, you know, nutrition, everything is easy when it’s motivation.

It just drops off really quick.

And it could be a bad day.

Like I’ve had a bad day where even if I’m dedicated, on my bad days, I’m eating the same foods.

And there’s two things you can regulate in life, which is pretty much sleep and what I’m putting in my body.

I know I did a podcast not too long ago talking about the importance of sleep.

How many hours of sleep do you get a day and why do you think that’s so important?

Yeah, so sleep is one of the biggest things ever.

It’s just recovery time.

I mean, your body is getting a break from food, for one thing, and it’s also, too, it’s how your body reciprocates and gets growing.

The older you get, we have less growth hormone.

But if you can get to bed before 10 o’clock, the chance of you releasing a little bit of growth hormone, which helps for prayer and recovery, is so much greater than if you’d go into bed at midnight.

So it’s not only just the hours of sleep you’re getting, but what hours are you getting asleep?

Because if you can get to bed before midnight and the closer you can get closer to like 10 o’clock, nine o’clock, the more of a chance of getting that growth hormone release, which is recovering and anti-aging.

It makes a big difference.


And everything.

I know you’ve told me that, you know, you can do the work in the gym, but if you don’t get to sleep, that’s where your muscles grow.


And I see it all the time, like people are in the gym.

We’ve got 24 hours a day.

Let’s just say everybody’s got one hour in the gym every day.

It’s the other 23 hours.

Are you getting enough sleep and what foods are you eating?

And that’s what separates everybody at the gym.

Cause I see people in the gym busting their butt, probably harder than I am, probably there for two hours.

The problem is what they’re doing outside the gym is just not accumulating to get to the results they’re looking for.


I know you told me before that 80% of it is nutrition.

And a lot of people put all their energy into their workout, but then they don’t get the right nutrition in their body.

And there’s also big windows of time too, like pre-workout, intra-workout, post-workout.

Are you getting the right foods and nutrients in during those times?

Because that’s when your body is most susceptible to suck all that stuff in.

So when I am taking in carbs, I try to keep it around workout time, especially, so that’s when my body can suck up those carbs.

And that’s the best time to take them.

Outside that window, early morning towards bedtime, I try to really limit my carbohydrates.

And I also try to fast from like my last meal at the day at 5.36 until 6.30 the next morning.

So I’m trying to give myself 12 hours of just relief from food.

Because every time you’re eating food, no matter if it’s clean food, your body is reacting in some sort of inflammatory process to break that food down.

And it’s just giving your body a break from food.


Well, I know we have a big audience listening today.

And one of the things that they probably don’t understand is what is clean food?

So, you know, can you kind of walk us through a little bit of your diet?

What kind of foods that you put in your diet on a daily basis?

And give us some examples maybe of your day to day, what you’re eating.


And when you’re eating it.

Yeah, this is something pretty boring, but my first meal of the day is when I wake up, so right around 630, I make three eggs, egg whites, and I scramble them.

I salt everything because it helps with your citation of like your food so it sticks longer with you.

With that, I also add like a couple of their turkey bacons, turkey sausage, three, four.

That’s just enough protein and fat to kind of keep me over, not spiking my insulin levels.

I feel great.

I don’t need caffeine in the morning.

Two and a half hours later, right around like 930, I’m having my second meal depending on workouts and stuff, but usually consists now of my wife making me egg bake, which is kind of the same type of product.

And I also have a protein shake, and your protein from Corvive is actually a perfect one because it’s one of the cleanest proteins out there.

Like it mixes up like a normal BCA.

It’s the cleanest protein I’ve seen out there.

So then two and a half hours later, I’m having a clean red meat, either hamburger, beef.

So I probably have like six to eight ounces of that, along with what, you know, Jasmine rice, and I usually probably like a third to a half of a cup.

And I also have to throw an apple in, just some natural sugar too, but it’s coming from an apple, not from some other substance.

Two and a half hours later, at 2.30, I’m eating the same type of thing, egg bake, or I’ll have like maybe a protein pancake or sprout bread with some natural peanut butter with another protein shake.

And then two and a half hours later, it’s about 5.30, sitting down with my family, having the same type of red meat, Jasmine rice, and apple.

And it’s just very consistent, clean foods that come mostly from the earth.

Yeah, I know a lot of people, they don’t understand the importance of, you know, they’ll take an apple, throw it in a blender, or drink apple juice, and they don’t understand the difference of what your body, how it breaks down that sugar in that apple if you eat it as a whole apple with the fiber.

I mean, that makes a big difference on the way your body takes in that glucose from that apple.

Yeah, and there’s still like, I would definitely recommend fruits still, like all the time, like fruits, like, you know, bananas, apples, blueberries, strawberries.

Same thing too with some of those fruits, you know, you definitely want to soak them with probably, you know, vinegar and some baking soda, kind of help take off some of those phosphates that they’d spring all of our chemicals with, but also takes out of your body too, so your body’s not struggling to break down those fruits even more, and it just makes the fruits a little bit more vibrant and a little bit healthier for you to eat.

So give us an example of, you said 1.2 grams of protein a day per body weight.

What is the difference in, let’s say, in a person that it’s only bringing in 0.5 versus 1.2, what are some of the health benefits, not only for muscle growth, but what are some of the benefits that we are gonna see maybe that determines your glucose levels throughout the day and different things by getting the right amount of protein?

Yeah, protein alone will actually lower your glucose levels, but it’s also very anabolic.

So when you’re taking in protein, too, it’s gonna increase your muscle mass.

The more muscle you have, the more calories you burn.

So if you’re looking right now with people who are going on with Zempek, which is a GLP and a Hic Tagenus, which is basically an injection people are giving themselves that basically produces glucagon in your body, prevents you from thinking that you’re eating food, those people are losing weight, but they’re also losing a ton of muscle mass.

So once they come off of that again, 80% of those people are gaining weight back because now they don’t have the same lean muscle mass to help them burn the calories.

So the weight they’re putting back on is gonna be most likely fat than muscle.

So it’s kind of that balance of just protein is so important.

If you could cut out one thing, which would be mostly cutting down your carbohydrates and replacing it with protein.

It just sounds more about an anabolic, higher caloric burning protein is for carbohydrates than a carbohydrate is.

Yeah, I know one of the things that I talk about over and over to my boys and anybody that’s our age, I’m like protein and muscle is king for longevity.

A lot of people, women especially, they’re like, well, I don’t wanna get bulky.

I don’t wanna, and your wife, Liz, is a perfect example.

I mean, she has very low body fat.

You have very low body fat, but what would you say to someone, maybe a woman that’s listening that says, well, I don’t wanna get bulky.

I don’t wanna lift weights.

What would you tell them of how important muscle is to the longevity from a health standpoint?

Yeah, I think it’s for anti-aging, just looking good.

But my wife is now gonna be 46 here in September.

But after having two kids, when I first met her, I was into the training part.

I was kind of a sales manager, ballet total fitness, but I was also training people on the side.

First thing she said to me is, I don’t want to get bulky.

And I started laughing and go, most men and you men out there who are out in the gym, know you’re lifting hard, you’re eating the right foods, and you still can’t get bulky.

So women who have much lower testosterone, which is also, you know, men and women both have this hormone, women have so much lower that no matter what you’re taking in, what you’re eating, you’re never gonna get bulky.

But to look healthy, to look lean, to feel better, is having enough lean tissue that is gonna burn that body fat.

So you just burn more body fat throughout the day and night when you have more lean tissue.

And it’s a healthier look for you, because the more fat you have, it’s just bad on your system between liver, kidneys, cancer.

The other thing about glucose is that people don’t realize, back in the day, they made something called a PET scan.

A PET scan is where they shoot you full of glucose, and that glucose goes to organs that are cancerous.

That’s because glucose loves cancer, and cancer loves glucose.

And how do you cut out cancer?

And if you’ve seen lately on the news, any reports, cancer is going out of the rough.

It’s just skyrocketing for breast cancer, pancreatic cancer, colon cancer.

The big reason why is because everybody’s sugar is so high, and we are feeding these cancer cells like crazy.

So more people are getting cancer, and how do you cut those cancers out?

It’s not chemotherapy.

It’s not all these medicines that go on.

It is literally watching your diet.

It’s cutting those sugars down, starving the cancer cells out.

And a perfect example is I got a friend who’s a chiropractor in Minneapolis.

His wife two, three months ago in January was diagnosed with all these different cancers.

And the doctor gave her a 30-year radio oncologist, gave her two to three months to live.

And he sent me a report after we sat down and talked about all the different treatments out there naturally.

He changed her diet.

He did some IV stuff.

They’ve been doing all this natural stuff.

Three months later now, she has put 20 pounds on and her cancer is completely gone.


And he’s got the pictures to prove it.

He sent them to me and he’s super excited.

We’re gonna see him when we go back here.

But things like that, just showing you that they gave her two to three months.

And if they weren’t gonna kill her with the chemotherapy treatments, they were putting her on pain meds, which she couldn’t stand to be on.

She’s on nothing anymore.

You know, I was talking to my wife about this the other day.

Sugar is one of those things that we become addicted to at an early age.

I mean, I look back and, you know, your kid gets a big birthday cake.

I mean, after the sporting events, the kids get the sugar snacks.

You know, then it just keeps on going, you know, throughout our lifestyle.

And why does people love sugar so much?

Is it because of the feeling that they get?

Does it increase their dopamine levels?

What is, why are people addicted to sugar?

It’s all those things.

I mean, they show reports where they show you cocaine and they show you sugar and they show how it works in the brain.

And actually sugar is more addictive and more of a stimulant to the brain and to the body than actually cocaine is.

So it just shows you it’s a drug.

It’s a drug that we decided, like, if you’ve seen recently that some of the smoking companies just bought out Kraft Mac and Cheese.

They just bought them out for like a couple billion dollars.

Well, why are they doing this?

Because those companies know that they can take the same additives that they put into your tobacco products and put into your food, the more addictive you come to your foods.

And then it just, it builds a business.

Healthy foods are not addictive.

They’re addictive when you start feeling good and you get rid of all that stuff.

But when you start eliminating that first one, people start eating healthy, the first thing they’re gonna realize, you’re going to have a crash.

You’re not going to feel good because you’ve been addicted to this sugar.

When you take that sugar out, you’re gonna feel lethargic.

Your body’s gonna withdraw from it, just like a drug.

So it takes a long time and people don’t make it through that initial process because it’s like, I’m addicted to all this stuff.

When you take it out, they don’t feel good.

So there’s a weaning process too.

It’s like coming off any drug.

Now let’s go back to the Zempik.

That’s a big topic right now.

So why is it that people lean more towards the Zempik versus just eating correctly and following a long process?

And you said basically what you’re telling me is if they don’t change their lifestyle as far as what they’re eating, then they’re gonna either choose to stay on that Zempik for the rest of their life, or they’re just gonna gain that weight back.

And the amount of muscle you’re saying that they’re losing during that weight losing process is doing no good to their body.

No, and I’ve got friends that back in Minneapolis where I’m originally from, who are on those products, so down 90 pounds.

Now the problem is if they have this excess skin, because it’s not just the fat they’re losing.

If you lose fat slowly over time, your skin tightens up really fast.

But when you’re losing muscle tissue, which is a more dense tissue, when you start losing that, that skin gets really elastic-y, and it doesn’t want to stretch.

So you might have lost a lot of weight, you look good with clothes on, but as soon as you take your clothes off, you have all this excess fat and skin laying there because of the fact that your body didn’t do it the right way.

But people who slowly lose weight over time and do it the right way through diets and exercise, they don’t have that.

Their body will tighten up and their skin will tighten up with it.

But the faster you do things and sometimes more on natural you do things, that’s when you start having that saggy skin.

So you might look good with clothes on, but overall in the mirror, you’ve lost a lot of weight, but you look like you’re a skinny fat.

So it’s just doing it the right way.

Skinny fat is no way to live.


And then if you just gotta be on something for the rest of your life again, now the pharmaceutical companies, they have you on a product.

It’s just like anything.

They want to treat you and they don’t want to just fix you.

They want to keep treating you for the rest of your life.

Yeah, same way with the food industry.

That’s why they want to put so much sugar in everything.

They keep you coming back wanting more.

They don’t make a lot of money if you only eat one candy bar or one sugar product.

They make it when you buy more and buy more and buy more.

And that’s why you’ll see a lot of our products that we have in the United States are not, they’re banned in other countries.

Like you can go to Mexico, went there and I drank regular soda.

I was drinking regular food.

I came back and actually lost weight.

I looked better after being in Mexico, eating anything and everything I wanted to, because it was my break on vacation.

I thought, I’m gonna eat some of these foods, but then you look at the back of a can, and they’re like even Coca-Cola, and there’s four ingredients.

And now you get to the United States and you look at the back of that same can, and there’s 30 things on there, which I can’t even figure out what they are.

Yeah, well, and the sugar that Mexico put in Coke is sugar cane.


It’s not processed sugar.

Yeah, and that’s what you want.

I mean, if you’re gonna take in sugar, even like pre-workout, like a lot of the products I take even for like my intra-workout are called highly branched dextrins, which is a quick-absorbing carbohydrate, but it’s technically not a sugar.

So it’s getting in my system fast, but it’s really not spiking my insulin levels, but it’s definitely pushing right into my muscles.

Yeah, yeah.

Why is it’s crazy that the United States, again, I already know the answer, but it’s all that follows the money.

That’s what it’s all about.

All the processed foods we have.

Yeah, I’d say if anybody could just start out basically as one first taking a food journal, write down the foods you eat during a week, write down what you drink on the weekends, and if you could just add up the amount of sugar you have in those given days, you’ll realize what you’re doing to your body.

Not only just what it looks like physically appearance, but it’s doing internally, which is causing these cancers.

And then eventually picking up a cheap glucose monitor and saying, how do I measure these foods?

How do they react to my body when I take these?

And it is like a quick little finger prick, but once you start doing that monitoring that, you’ll realize the foods that are really spiking your insulin high and like, how long does it take you to get back to fasting level?

And then also like, you know, too, today, I’m fasting.

I’m doing a 24 hour fast to get my glucose down, just to feel better too, because it’s good to actually get rid of cancer cells.

Within a 24 hour period, my body is regenerating new cells, kind of helping myself out, because if I keep eating the same way, it doesn’t repair itself.

Yeah, I love every 90 days, I love doing a three day water fast only.

I mean, that’s something I’ve did for 15 years.

And you’re exactly right.

A lot of people don’t know all these bad cells, your body has the ability to repair those cells with new cells.

Yeah, and it’s called autophagy, it just basically means that your body is saying, you have no energy left in your nutrients, we’re gonna kill these cancerous and these bad cells, and we’re gonna replace them with new ones.

And that can happen within 24 hours.

If you can make it two to three days like you do, it’s amazing even better because it kills almost all your cancer cells in three days.

And we get cancer cells all the time, like me and you eating like a hamburger or something might be on the grill.

There are cancer cells in there, right?

And how do some people get cancer and other people’s don’t?

It depends a lot on it.

Are you taking enough glucose?

You know, if your glucose is at 120, 130, and you’re taking these same cancer cells, it’s attaching to that and helping it grow.

Now, if we’re down in the 70s, 80s, where probably me and you are, the cancer has no room to grow.

So those cancer cells are coming in.

There’s nowhere for it to attach as there’s no fuel to it, and it dies.


Yeah, that’s powerful, man.

I know my dad, his dad died at 49 with stomach cancer, you know, and then my uncle, his son, my dad farmed with him, died at 39 with stomach cancer.

And two of the things that they did over and over is they would come home, they would eat dinner late at night because it was farmers, and they would always have a big piece of dessert.

And I mean, they had dessert with every meal.

I mean, a lot of that is just this old school way of doing things, and they’ll tell them what, you know, difference it would have made if they would have monitored their sugar intake.

Just all that stuff, it causes over time, is that you’ve spiked insulin levels nonstop.

So basically any cancer that’s coming in, whether it’s from like even farmers who are around chemicals all day, they’re taking their systems, anytime that cancer comes in your body and it’s got a fuel source to attach it to, which is glucose, and that’s why they made the PET scan.

It was like, how do we tech cancer in this body?

Let’s pump them full of glucose.

Wherever it lights up, that’s where we know the cancer cells are at.

So the easiest way ever, if you just think about this naturally, is how do you cut off, if you did a PET scan, if glucose is firing up all these cancer cells, let’s cut our cancer down by getting rid of the glucose or lowering it as possibly as low as we can.

So it’s that simple.

So what are some of the other main things that you would talk about to anybody listening that they say today, Chad, I get it, man, my diet is not clean.

I don’t have a workout plan.

I’m consuming way too much sugar.

I mean, we ain’t even talked about the negative effects of alcohol and what that does to your body.

I don’t know if you want to touch on that.

No, I mean, I’ve been done drinking since November.

I just kind of drank my whole life off and on, and just kind of realized, too, it’s like my body, the more research you do on alcohol, you realize it’s not a natural substance.

I mean, they give it actually its own calorie source, seven grams per calorie.

So it’s like, there’s a reason why they made it too, and it was just, it toxifies your body.

It’s a neurotoxin.

It just ages you really fast.

It disaster your NAD levels, which is our natural way of keeping ourselves young.

So again, it helps with cancer growth, everything else.

I think you’re starting to realize that.

The problem is it’s in every bar, restaurant, it’s in every place, but they don’t, and they promote it.

It’s a natural thing of like, how do you get rid of stress and everything else?

A lot of times the stress we’re having too is a lot because the foods and the environment we’re putting ourselves in.

And if you eliminate all that stuff and get to that natural level, you’ll realize alcohol isn’t needed.

Yeah, and it goes back to when I was talking about the kids after sporting events would always want the sugar snacks and all those different things.

It seems like the human or the adults go from the sugars, and yes, they keep consuming sugars, to alcohol being that feel good.

I mean, it’s so funny.

You watch on Facebook or Instagram, someone has a bad day, they go to the bar and have a drink.

They have a good day, they go to the bar and have a drink.

They have a sporting event that they wanna watch on TV, they have a drink.

I mean, it’s just always, and it’s that dopamine level that they’re chasing, and they don’t even realize that, which I did a powerful leg day workout yesterday, and what I try to tell people is earn your dopamine, don’t just reward yourself with dopamine.

How would you explain that to someone listening?

Yeah, I just think when you go to, like we just got back from Vegas, took a quick trip, and I think the longer too, you’re sober and around people who drink, you realize how alcohol destroys you, not only internally, but externally.

Like you see so many fights, so many arguments, all because of alcohol, because it lowers your inhibition, it makes you say things sometimes you won’t wanna say, and it brings up a lot of things, you might say things that you’ve been wanting to say, but you say it in the wrong way.

So I think this alcohol has been very toxic in so many people, and I don’t think I realized it till I got away from drinking just a little farther away.

I still like going to bars, restaurants, I drink soda water, I don’t feel the need to do it.

I’d rather reward myself with a snack or cheat with food than alcohol.

It’s like when we go on date nights now, I’ll get myself a pizza.

And I know most people are on the thing probably going, this guy eats like this all the time.

I don’t, I do have my cheat days.

Other things I like, I love donuts, I love cupcakes.

There’s still that stuff where I’m chasing at dopamine levels, but doing it in a way where I’m like, as soon as I eat it, I feel good for a little bit, and then I have a crash.

I want to take a nap, I feel like crap.

So it’s just, you realize, I mentioned, when you get away from things farther, and then when you throw them back in, you realize what it does to your body.

Yeah, I know that you don’t really call them cheat days.

You call them re-feed days.

And you worked with me on that.

Explain to me why you call it a re-feed day and not a cheat day.

Yeah, because I think a lot of times too, your body is going through a system of cutting out carbohydrates.

Getting your glucose low.

And you need to replenish it.

You also need to reward yourself.

And calling it a cheat means that you’re doing something you shouldn’t be doing.

I plan my things.

That’s why I call it a re-feed day.

I know a lot of people do, just because of the fact that it’s rewarding your body with these glycogens and nutrients it sometimes needs.

You’ll definitely notice a re-feed day, like you swell up or retain water.

I look fuller.

I feel better.

It’s just one of those things.

And then throughout the week, I’ll slowly cut that back out and sometimes reward myself again, depending on how I feel.

I’ll either increase that window or do kiss that window of re-feed time on like a Sunday or Saturday, where I can enjoy certain foods with my kids.

It’s just the consequences afterwards sometimes add up.

Where like this week, I’m fasting today because all that water and glycogen just won’t leave my body this week for some reason.

So it’s just doing a 24 hour fast to say, hey, I need this water.

Oh, because I don’t like that feeling of being inflamed.

It’s just what happens with it.

Yeah, we had even talked about what sugar does from an inflammation standpoint.

That’s what high glucose is.

It’s basically inflammation.

Your body is attacking itself.

When you get the swollen hands, those times you go out and you have a big meal, I’ll eat it and my hands will swell up.

My rings won’t fit on my finger.

So that’s your body having an inflammatory effect, which again is feeding cancer cells, anything else that might be in there, but it’s just causing so much inflammation with your body.

Inflammation is big.

I know when I do a three day water fast, and I’m big on the sauna as well, I know you are as well, but I go into the chiropractor, he puts his hands on me two or three days a week, and right after I get done with the three day water fast, and I have a real clean diet leading up to that water fast, then I have a clean, introducing food to myself after the three day water fast.

He says, good night, Jeremy, your inflammation is literally zero.

So give us a little bit of background on doing different weight lifting, or not weight lifting, but bodybuilding, you know, what you’ve been able to do from helping other different people.

Give me some different examples maybe of how you’ve taken somebody’s body and totally transformed them, got them into competition.

I don’t know if you have any in mind without saying names if you don’t want to.

You’ve totally, not only helped them compete at a high level, but you look back now and two to three years from now, they’re continuing to live that lifestyle.

And they’re like, man, Chad, thank you for introducing me to a new way of life.

Yeah, I think when you get a lot of coaches out there too, they do such dramatic changes, like say where you’re going like 3,600 calories when you’re off season.

And as soon as you get into a 12-week prep, they cut you down to 2,000 calories and they’re doing three hours of cardio.

And it’s just a slow way I like to do is I slowly work people up to gain weights, but we just slowly add in every couple of weeks, depending on what your body weight’s doing.

And it’s the same thing, it’s a slow process cutting back down.

We don’t do things dramatically, like we slowly enter in cardio for you, we slowly cut your calories back.

And I think it’s more of a lifestyle change for people, because we need to do dramatic changes like that.

It’s so hard on your body, it’s so hard on your mind.

I’ve had people who’ve been training for multiple shows come to me, and I train them for a show, and the significant other will come to me at the end of the show and say, thank you so much.

This was the best prep he ever did, he was happy, like it was the easiest thing for him.

Because we didn’t do dramatic changes.

And the thing is that the quicker you do things, and the harder you do things, the harder your body reacts and holds on to things.

And if I take you from 3,600 calories to 2,000, and we get to a sticking point, I’ve got nowhere to go.

So if you slowly do things and things come off, let’s say we drop you from 3,600 calories to 3,400, add a little cardio and you keep pulling weight off, we keep you there.

And then once you hit a sticking point, we either cut your calories slightly back, or we increase your cardio a little bit, but we’re doing small little steps over a period of time.

And that’s why it’s better to do a longer prep than it is a six week prep, because otherwise you have to crash somebody down, their body reacts, they kind of want to hold on a little bit tighter.

So yeah, I’ve just trained people anywhere from their 50s, a lot of females, I’ve trained a lot of just gentlemen, but a lot of times I think females were easier for me to train.

They just listened to the program easier.

Even though they have more hormones to work with, they’re some of the easiest people because they’re just mentally tough.

Where men sometimes, I get them on a program and they don’t want to stick to it.

They kind of get their egos get in the way.

But I mean, I’ve had really good success.

I mean, back in the day, I was training a ton of guys.

We had a whole Facebook page of this training group that I trained.

And we all became a civic family.

I was just bouncing ideas off.

And I still bounce ideas off of certain people out there I really respect in the industry.

I know you and I live in a neighborhood where they have a big lagoon.

And I was with Candice for a couple of hours this last couple of days, Saturday, I think, when we went.

And isn’t it amazing, Chad, how many dad bods there is out there?

And I hear that whole dad bod theory.

And what would you say to maybe a dad bod that’s listening today that is really not treating their body the way they need to be treated?

I always tell everyone, you need to be training like an athlete.

I don’t care if you’re 48, like me.

And I’m not really competing as an athlete, but I try to treat my body like an athlete.

And what difference does that make in someone’s overall life experience as a father, as a husband, as performing well in their job?

I mean, because that’s one of my hardest things to try to help these dads understand is you’re not doing this just to look good with your shirt off.

I mean, I firmly believe next to your faith, your most important thing is being physically fit.

I mean, would you agree with that?

And how would you try to get these dads to listen, get a hold of your life, change your life, but start with what you can control, which is your physical fit body?

Yeah, I’d like to try to be an example for my kids.

I’ve got a 12 year old and a 15 year old.

And I think, you know, every time I take my shirt off, I just want them to be like, Kate, my dad eats really clean, takes care of himself.

It’s also that’s just self pride.

And like, that’s what I try to explain to them is that I’ve had kids in the past who want to help me, like their parents want me to help them train for a sport.

And I’d sit down with a kid at the gym and said, here’s a deal, this sport will be done someday.

And you see all those guys that are in high school, right?

With great shape.

High school’s over, five, 10 years later, you go back to the reunion and these guys are 20, 30 pounds overweight because they gave up lifting because the sport ended.

So it’s just that self-dignity too.

It’s like, I want to take my shirt off to look good for myself, most importantly, but I also want to take my shirt off and look good for my wife.

I like, you know, I want to feel good that I look good for her.

She does the same thing for me.

Like you go out in public, you feel good about yourself.

Work wise, I feel really good about myself because I’m going in to see, you know, clients, seeing people.

I feel good that I’m not like worried about I’m overweight or something like that because I hate to say in this world, we’re all about appearance.

You make judgments on people about their success in life and how things go.

And I know there’s a lot of people out there that say, well, I want my husband to have a dad bod.

That is an excuse for people to have that comfortability, that pillow of like, if they have a dad bod, they’re not going to be attracted to anybody else.

Nobody else is going to be attracted to them.

And that’s all that is.

If that was like me telling me, I want my wife to have a wife bod, it is because I want a security blanket that she’s got to be, nobody else is going to be attracted to her.

I don’t, the biggest thing is, I like that people look at my wife because she’s a great shape.

She takes care of herself.

She’s got self-pride.

She stands up tall, you know, and she has people that come up and ask her questions all the time.

And the biggest thing too, is not only just what you look like, what is it doing internally?

You’re going to be 55 years old, and you’re going to get diagnosed with some sort of cancer.


Because you have the dad bod, you’re not taking care of yourself.

I want to live to see my kids’ kids, and hopefully my kids’ kids’ kid would be great, but that’s probably, you know, a farfetched, but just trying to live to be the happiest, healthiest parent I can be, and father as well.

Yeah, it’s longevity.


Yeah, I mean, one of the things that I hear people often say, man, it must be nice to eat steak and hamburgers and avocados and all those things, but I can’t afford it.

One of the things I tell them over and over is you can’t afford not to, because you’re going to spend the money on your health.

You’re either going to spend it on the front end, have a good quality of life.

You’re going to have the discipline to go to the gym.

That’s another thing people say, is I don’t have the money and I don’t have the time.

And I’m like, you’re either going to spend the money on your health and have a good quality of health and life and good experiences, or you’re going to try to buy it back from what you neglected a long time ago, but the time thing too.

I know someone recently posted something on my Instagram, must be nice to have money to be able to work out all the time, whatever.

I mean, how would you go about that person that says, I don’t have the money, I don’t have the time to invest my health?

Yeah, and I always say that too, is that everybody’s got 24 hours a day.

People have so much time.

They’ll be sitting, watching TV, doing something on their phone.

You’ve got 45 minutes to an hour, right?

And I go in the gym, you’ll see me like, I’m quick in and out.

I do what, 45 minutes, I do a push-pull leg day.

I get in, do my cardio, I’m in and out of there.

And as for what comes for diet, so I mean, working out during a day is not an issue.

People all have the time, it’s just depending what they want to do at that time.

A lot of people will waste so much time doing irresponsible things, like sitting on their computer, checking stuff that they don’t need to be checking.

And as for food, the way prices are going right now, potato chips, Pop, all that stuff, like you think the cheap foods you’re getting, which isn’t even food, is so expensive these days, that yeah, steak prices have went up, red meat prices went up, chicken has went up, but those are foods that are actually gonna stick with you longer.

The problem is you get a quick fix of sugar, an hour later, you’re starving.

When you’re starting to eat quality protein, your body can go two, three hours without needing food, so you’re needing actually less food, which overall is cheaper than eating a bunch of cheap food all day long.

Yeah, yeah, one of the things that I’ll do often if I wanna prove that point is I’ll go to a, you know, quick gas station, not to purchase anything, but just to sit there and watch the people that come through and they buy the 44 ounce soda, they buy the donuts, they buy the chips.

I mean, they’re spending 10 bucks, you know, and then they go to Chick-fil-A and it’s $15.

Then they go to McDonald’s and it’s another $12.

And then they maybe have the cigarette habit or, you know, tobacco or anything like that.

And they’re just like, they don’t realize that they’re spending more money and doing more damage to their body than if they, you know, one of my favorite things, I go every week and I buy a whole lawn, tenderloin at Costco and that’s around 120 bucks.

And then I cut 18 individual steaks, which comes anywhere depending on, you know, six dollars to eight dollars, depending on, I mean, I’m getting 50 grams of protein and one steak for eight bucks.

And people will say they can’t afford it, but they go to Chick-fil-A and spend 15 bucks.

Same thing with our kids’ school system.

I look at my kids’ school system, we, you know, we try to get them to bring food to school sometimes, because my son’s in middle school, my daughter’s in high school.

But the options even for high school are the same way.

Like they think that, oh, this is cheap, you know, you’re getting six dollars, but you’re not getting enough food and two, the food you’re getting is not quality food.

Where we try to at least pack our kids’ food a couple of days a week, we do give them the option of like, here’s a pizza day or here’s a burrito day, but like trying to get their own food so we know what’s going in their system.

Because same thing, it’s not just our whole world, it’s our school systems too, and the foods that they’re allowing in our schools.

And it’s like, it’s cheap, easy food, but it’s not real food.

And then that goes back to another question I have is, how important is home habits?

You know, we always talk about genetics.

People use, you know, oh, I have poor genetics or my metabolism is low.

That’s the biggest excuse that people have when they’re overweight.

And, you know, I did a post on Instagram.

I know it upset some people, but I just said, it’s not genetics, it’s home habits.

It is.

And I say that because I’ve got a good friend that I grew up with and his dad died of a heart attack.

He’s overweight.

And I’ll never forget this like it was yesterday, man.

I was about 12.

They asked me to come home with them after church on a Sunday and they sit and watch movies.

And this is the old VHS days.

And they sit and watch movies and they ate Doritos, Ding Dongs, Twinkies, all this stuff throughout the day.

And the mom is way overweight.

He’s now way overweight as an adult.

I mean, how important is it for us, not only for you and I to look good when we take our shirt off, but what good are we doing our kids teaching them good, healthy habits?

I mean, do you agree with me that they’re not just gonna be obese at 40 year old, our kids, if we instill these good habits in their lifestyle?

Yeah, I think it’s the foods we eat, it’s also the foods we bring into the house and let your kids eat.

We definitely let our kids eat different foods than we eat because we just don’t eat that food, but we also let them know there’s a certain limit and a certain way.

And we also explain food is fuel.

A lot of people use food as a comfort zone, as like, you know, they think it’s dangerous, but food is a fuel.

Like back in the day when we were hunters and gatherers, we ate what we needed to eat to survive.

And sometimes there was days you didn’t eat at all because you couldn’t get food.

So nowadays it’s just, food is convenient.

We get the cheap, easy foods, because like, hey, I’m gonna pop in these pizza rolls.

It’s not really food.

So we try to explain to our kids, yes, this is okay for a couple of meals, maybe a week.

But the rest of the time, we’re cooking up foods and trying to eat with our kids.

And explain to them, like, you know, you get used to that sugary taste.

Your mouth doesn’t know anything different.

You try to get too much stuff in there.

Your tongue and your brain expects that.

And when you start cutting that out, your brain doesn’t need that anymore.

So it’s keeping things like, I have a very bland diet, but when I start eating things outside that, my body reacts, my GI reacts and says, hey, this isn’t normal food, and it wants to eliminate very fast.

One of the things I tell my boys, both of them want to be college athletes.

And I’m like, the sooner you learn about nutrition and how to fuel the body correctly, learn the importance of sleep, learn how to train yourself, not expect coach to train you.

You get into college, most kids don’t learn that until they’re in college, but you’re going to have a big advantage on them.

And that’s what I see you’re doing with your kids as well.

I see you up there training with your boy.

I see your wife training with your daughter.

The advantage that they’re going to have into early adulthood is going to be crazy for them.

Yeah, and we just, I would not just for like looking good and stuff, but like just like the long-term, like what food does to you, the cancer rates going up and just lowering up testosterone.

So we’re trying to keep all these in fact for our kids who are younger.

And it’s like teaching them hopefully lessons that they’ll teach their kids someday.

Cause you can’t expect them to teach your friends cause their friends are eating different ways.

Like my friend eats this way.

And like, well, your friend also does a lot of other things too, and your friend’s not healthy and your friend’s not going to like excel in school.

And my kids are all straight A students too.

So food is a fuel for your brain as well.

So explaining, yes, it’s for your body, but it also feels your brain, like getting our kids like, it’s morning time, you’re going to school.

You’re eating something before you go to school.

And it’s going to be the right foods to fuel your brain.

Yeah, well, that’s, it’s, I was reading an article the other day, a research study just come out talking about ADHD.

Everybody wants to get their kids straight on the medicine for ADHD.

And most of that is linked to poor nutrition.

You know, I mean, they give their kids, you know, fruit loops in the morning, send them off to school, and then wonder why little Johnny can’t sit there and listen to the teacher.

It’s a lot of brain fog.

You know, you can take a lot of sugar and you get this brain fog where your brain doesn’t quite think for a while, and it’s kind of like overwhelmed by it, and it’s hard to process.

And imagine sitting in through a class all day and somebody’s trying to teach you during that process.

And then they label it ADHD, which is you’ve spiked glucose levels, and then when that glucose falls down, you feel like lethargic, and you kind of feel like out of it again.

So it’s just this nonstop up and down like sugar spikes.

Yeah, yeah, I didn’t bring the study in today, and so I don’t remember exactly the number, so I won’t say it, but just introducing two or three eggs in the morning to your kid’s diet has been proven to increase their IQ levels.

Yes, by far.

I mean, but we choose as a parent a lot of times, not me, not you, but a lot of parents just say, eat fruit loops.

Yes, and it gets quick and easy.

I mean, like mix up eggs, like my son, he doesn’t know how to eat.

Scramble up some eggs, like people just say, oh, I have to eat an egg a certain way.

No, scramble them, make them whichever way you want.

Salt them, pepper them, make them taste good.

You know, there’s certain things you can do to eggs, and every time you’re told by a certain health agency not to eat something, that is probably the food you should be eating.

They’re telling you not to eat steak and eggs.

Nobody in the human history has ever died from eating steak and eggs.

It’s the process foods are trying to get us to eat.

And it’s killing people every day.

Yeah, I don’t know if you guys caught that, but he said, what are the food industry is telling you to eat, don’t eat it.

And whatever the government agency is telling you is good for you, is probably not good for you.

I mean, whatever they say is bad for you, like the steak and eggs is what you need to be eating.

We have not planned on talking about this, but I know you say salt your eggs, salt this, salt that.

And that was another thing that probably about 10 years ago, they started talking about the negative effects on salt.

No one was talking about the negative effects on sugar, but you’re saying that salt in your diet is actually a good thing.

Tell me and why.

Yeah, so Mike, my dad has got high blood pressure.

Of course he went to his nutritionist.

They said cut out all your salt because it’s increasing your blood pressure.

And it’s completely the opposite.

I mean, you can drink fluid all day.

We can drink this water all day.

If there’s not some sort of sodium, potassium sucking that water and keeping it in, it’s gonna go right through us.

It’s also gonna do is increase our appetite.

If we’re just drinking water, it’s going through us.

Your stomach gets really hungry and you can start adding salt to things too.

It just sits with you longer.

It sits in your muscles longer.

You’re getting more of a sedated feeling.

So you’re not like feeling so hungry all the time.

So a lot of times you just say when you’re feeling really hungry and you just ate, drink water.

Well, don’t just drink water.

Throw some salt in there.

It’ll stick with you better.

So you actually feel better.

It actually sucks into your muscles.

It helps with hydration.

Even the best pre-workout you can do is take some salt and some baking soda.

Throw it in your pre-workout.

You’re gonna feel better.

You’re gonna actually have a better pump in the gym.

Yep, absolutely.


Salt is big, man.

I mean, you know, we at Core-V, we have a keto product that is your heavy salt.

And then of course, you know, our hydration product.

I mean, there’s not a day goes by that I don’t introduce salts into my life.

Yeah, and I’ve actually been doing the fast today for 24 hours.

I’m drinking your BHP salts, you know, salt that your body naturally produces, but just not enough of.

And when you’re lacking carbohydrates, you start feeling tired.

First thing somebody wants to do is go for a cup of coffee.

Or an energy drink, right?

BHP salts are one of the best things ever, because their body naturally produces them, but they’re actually used as an energy source.

It fuels your brain lumps quicker.

So you feel perky and you’re like, okay, I don’t need the caffeine, but you also know you’re doing something much healthier for your body.

Well, Chad, it’s been a pleasure having you on today.

So to wrap everything up, I mean, what is something you want to say in the last couple of minutes here to really grab people’s attention on being aware of glucose and what are some recaps that you would say, do these things in order for you to have a good, healthy lifestyle throughout your life?

Yeah, so I think a lot of people think they’re not taking a lot of sugar in during the day.

And when you start taking a food journal, I’m telling you, do it a couple days during the week, two days during the week, two days during the weekend, start actually journaling all the foods you’re eating.

And actually just write that down and see how much sugar you’re taking.

You’re gonna find out you’re spiking your insulin pretty much all day long.

And then from those on, it’s just slowly adapting.

You don’t have to get rid of everything.

It’s slowly saying, what can I take out of this out of my plan?

What can I do to lower that sugar level?

It’s like, I don’t have to get rid of everything because people will go from eating really bad to try to eating clean, and that’s where the motivation comes in.

It is hard to do that.

When you start slowly taking out one item per day or one item per week, say, this week, I’m gonna take out this item and see how I feel.

And you start slowly seeing changes.

Then next week, I’m gonna take out this item and maybe replace it with something healthier.

And it’s just baby steps because people wanna go from like, I’ve been eating bad to I’m gonna go to the cleanest diet like me and you eat.

And it’s not possible.

It is baby steps over time.

And the longer you do that, it becomes more of a habit.

And it’s just slowly writing those things down and then saying, here’s what I can get rid of.

Here’s what I definitely gotta keep in my diet.

Because there are certain things that people just don’t wanna get rid of.

Yeah, that’s why I really, I mean, my company, we have a community of people that we’ve done 30-day challenges and different things.

And I think that’s great to really kind of kickstart someone.

But I don’t like it that people still always wanna look for another 30-day challenge, another 30-day challenge.

And they’ll do a 30-day challenge, and then they’ll do nothing for nine months.

And then they’ll do another 30-day challenge.

And you know, what you and I have learned is it’s all about consistency, get a plan and stay consistent.

Don’t be chasing 30-day challenges and expect it to change your life.

Something I always tell people when you’re going on a plan too is somebody is gonna help you with a plan.

Make sure you know what foods they like.

So if you put me on a plan, say we sat down and said, hey, here’s what I wanna do.

And you didn’t ask me what the foods I like to eat.

So let’s say you’re gonna put me on fish or shrimp.

I don’t eat seafood, just not a fan of it.

So I won’t stick to the plan.

So you gotta find foods that work for people as well.

Like, what are some foods that you really like that you can’t go without?

What are foods that you can go without?

And what are some things that maybe you’re allergic to?

Because if somebody puts you on a plan and you’re like, here’s your plan, and your dietician or your nutrition person doesn’t know the foods you like, you’re not gonna stay consistent with it.

And it’s also keeping foods in that like, I can’t get rid of this food, right?

This is something I have to have, it’s chocolate.

Okay, here’s where we’re gonna work the chocolate in.

We’re gonna work it in pre-workout or post-workout.

So keeping those foods in your plan so it makes it more attainable.

Not no bad chocolate.

No, there’s plenty of that out there too.

Yeah, so I guess at the end here, I just want you to, again, to give everyone a little bit of information where they can find you on Instagram, and then give that last, I hate using the word motivation again, because we always know that that’s gonna fail you at some point, but how could you really just say, guys, get a hold of your life, and change your life through health and nutrition and sleep, and then let them know where they can find you on Instagram?

Yeah, so my Instagram is Lester.

It’s L-E-I-S-T-E-R, one, two, three.

Don’t have that many followers.

The fact that I used to train a lot of people, had a bigger Facebook following, it’s because now I’m just kinda just doing my own thing, and helping a few people on the side, just trying to stay healthy.

A lot of people I’ve sent in the past are kind of on their plans, and they’re still consistently sticking to it, because of the fact that it was an easy plan to stick to.

Yeah, and then just, I don’t know what else we were asking me on.

Just how, again, can we say, you’re talking to that person in the camera, and you say, hey man, get a hold of your life.

I mean, I watch you and Liz, and the reason I want you to say this is, you know, I mean, you are the example.

I see you at the gym every day, I see you taking evening walks with Liz, I see your relationship with your kids, and there’s so many dads out there, Chad, and I guess let’s just finish up with the dads here in this last minute, that they’re wondering why life sucks for them.

You know, they’re overweight, they’re not motivated, they’re not driven, and they’re wondering why their life sucks.

I mean, and it all goes back to their physical fitness, nutrition, and getting a grip on life.

I mean, how can you say, guys, you know, now’s the time to get a grip on life?

Yeah, I don’t think it’s ever too late.

I mean, I’m gonna be 46 here in June here, so coming up this month.

And I think it’s the thing is, when I take my shirt off every day, it’s being that self-confident, having to look in my mirror and say, am I comfortable with what I look like?

Because once you’re there, you’re gonna feel comfortable.

You know your wife’s gonna be looking at you more comfortably.

You’re gonna set a good example for your kids.

So it’s all those things, it’s doing it for yourself, but once you do it for yourself, you do it for everybody else around you.

And then you set a tone for people that are close to you, because you always say, you’ve got four friends that smoke, you’ll be the fifth smoker.

So hanging out with the people who wanna take care of themselves, because you do get down those rabbit holes where you got friends who like eating bad foods, they wanna go to the happy hours, they wanna drink.

But if you ask all those friends too, are they happy with themselves or their marriages?

Most likely they’re not, because they’re chasing away from something else.

They’re not comfortable in their own skin, they’re trying to find something.

And once you come comfortable in your skin and you find that self-love, that self-love goes completely to everybody else around you.

And then you want to attract yourself like people like you, that have good families, they’re comfortable with themselves, they’re successful.

It just helps attract other same type of people.

Yep, absolutely.

One of the things I tell everyone is embrace the opportunities, not escape from it.

And most people are always looking for a way to escape instead of embrace.

Yeah, I mean, that’s the biggest thing.

Well guys, thank you for being on The Hard Truth Podcast today.

And Chad, I appreciate you coming on.

And thank you again for being that example, being a true man.

That’s something that we could probably do a whole topic on that.

There’s not a lot of true men out there in today’s world.

They’re not leading their families correctly.

They’re not being that example from a husband, from a dad, which bleeds into every bit of their lifestyle.

And it’s gonna make an impact too in their kids.

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